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Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« on: September 21, 2010, 03:09:33 PM »



BBC News, 21 September 2010 Last updated at 13:28 GMT

Delhi Games village 'unfit for athletes'

The Commonwealth Games Federation head has demanded the Indian government take immediate steps to improve conditions at the athletes' village in Delhi.
Team delegates have described the accommodation as filthy, unhygienic and unfit for human habitation.

But organisers of the event, which runs from 3 to 14 October, said the facilities would be excellent.

Meanwhile, police said 23 labourers were injured as a bridge being built near the main Games venue collapsed.

Clearly, the 'Indian way' hasn't worked - and the Games are turning out to be India's bonfire of vanities”

It is the latest setback to an event plagued by construction delays, allegations of corruption and a dengue fever outbreak in the Indian capital.

New Zealand, Scotland, Canada and Northern Ireland have demanded their teams be put up in hotels if their accommodation is not ready.

Michael Fennell, the Commonwealth Games Federation president, said he had written to the Indian cabinet secretary urging immediate action.

He said "many issues remain unresolved" and the athletes' village was "seriously compromised".

Although team officials had been impressed with the international zone and main dining area, he continued, they had been "shocked" by the state of the accommodation itself.

"The village is the cornerstone of any Games and the athletes deserve the best possible environment to prepare for their competition," Mr Fennell added.

Indian media is reporting that only 18 of 34 residential towers at the village are complete.

Two days before the village officially opens to the first of 7,000 athletes and officials, New Zealand chef de mission Dave Currie suggested the Games might even be cancelled.
He said toilets in the accommodation were leaking and did not flush, and there were piles of building debris in bathrooms.
Mr Currie told New Zealand commercial radio on Tuesday: "If the village is not ready and athletes can't come, obviously the implications of that are that it's not going to happen.
"It's pretty grim really and certainly disappointing when you consider the amount of time they had to prepare."
The Games village - made up of several blocks of high-rise luxury flats for the athletes who are due to begin arriving on Friday - was meant to be the event's showpiece.
The chief of the organising committee, Suresh Kalmadi, had said it would be better than the village at the Beijing Olympics.
Now his words are coming back to haunt him. Advance teams have described the state of the flats as shocking.
The village itself has been built on the banks of the Yamuna river. Just outside it are pools of green, stagnant water left over from flooding after Delhi's worst monsoon in three decades.
It's a breeding ground for mosquitoes and has raised fears of disease - there have been nearly 100 cases of dengue fever over the past month.
The organisers now certainly have their work cut out.
Team Scotland said in a statement that on arrival in Delhi last week their officials found "its allocated accommodation blocks were far from finished and in their view, unsafe and unfit for human habitation".
Commonwealth Games England called for "urgent" work on the facilities, raising concerns about "plumbing, electrical and other operational details".
Australia's chef de mission, retired marathon runner Steve Moneghetti, said in Melbourne the hosts "have got two days to do what's probably going to take about two weeks".
As the row unfolded, 23 construction workers were injured, five seriously, as an elevated footbridge gave way near the Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium, police said.
It is not clear what caused the collapse of the walkway, which was being built to link a car park to the arena, where the Games opening ceremony is to take place.
Delhi government's Chief Secretary, Rakesh Mehta, told Indian TV the bridge was cemented earlier on Tuesday.
Lalit Bhanot, secretary general of the organising committee, said in a news conference that the athletes' accommodation needed a "deep cleaning", but everything would be ready on time.
"According to us the room may be clean, but the foreign officials may require a certain standard of cleanliness and hygiene which may differ from our standards," he said.
"We are on the job and everyone is working day and night."
He added: "All other things and all other venues are ready and in the best of condition to conduct these events."
There have also been safety concerns surrounding the Games, heightened on the weekend when gunmen shot and wounded two tourists near Delhi's Jama Masjid, one of India's biggest mosques.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11379020



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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2010, 03:43:25 PM »

I am not sure how to react.
The rampant corruption and ineptitude makes me seethe with anger.
The pinch to the holier-than-thou Aussies and Kiwis makes me delighted.
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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2010, 04:27:05 PM »

Yes, the Australians are out to prove a point.

 http://cwg.ndtv.com/commonwealth/article/id/spoen20100153971/type/latest/Australia-TV-crew-brings-detonation-kit-to-venue.html

Don't we have laws against this? I'd love to see the Aussie tv crew spend a night in an Indian jail. They will then never say a word about the unflushed toilets and stray dogs in the athlete's village.
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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2010, 08:19:18 AM »

There seems to be no end to this embarassement...!

        http://www.ndtv.com/video/special/games-village-horror-story-93

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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 09:09:09 AM »

Look at the conditions inside the Games Village. Looks worse than any slum in a big city. How can Kalmadi claim that this village is better than the one at Beijing Olympics or the Indian senior official saying "perception of cleanliness is relative"!!!!!!!

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9025907.stm

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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 01:09:28 PM »

May be they need to put Kalmadi and family in one of these places for couple of months.

What a shame.  Cancel the damn games.  What are commonwealth games anyway?  Never heard of it before.

Yikes India should never be allocated events which require high organising capabilities what with all the bureaucracy and corruption plaguing the country for ever.

I would say all the famous athletes and participating countries should simply drop out for India not meeting the expectations and not delivering on the agreed infrastructure.

On another note I have recently attended the US Mens open Final (Nadal vs Djokovic) at the Ashe Stadium and the NY Jets vs NE Patriots NFL game at the new $1.6billion Meadowlands stadium in NYC area.  What a joy and a pleasure it is to be at such venues. When it comes to getting value for the money spent on sports entertainment it does not get better than that.  Complete contrast to what we are hearing about India hosting these games.  Why would anyone want to spend any money or time on such mediocrity and filth.
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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 02:25:13 PM »

haha sheila dixit has also chimed in with something along the lines of : these small things happen in big cities

and i think she also commented that westerner's hygiene standards are higher than ours
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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2010, 06:49:43 PM »

Looks like much of the hysteria is media generated.
It was grossly unfair to flash those images of the village even before the athletes moved in. As it turns out, it's not that bad. Check the real pics here by the Welsh team:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=35638&id=126663540695143&fbid=156374121057418&ref=mf

Holier-than-thou Aussies should keep there traps shut. Recently their Rugby team were in a scandal for having defecated in their hotel room floors. Beware, those traveling to Australia.
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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2010, 04:33:38 PM »

haha sheila dixit has also chimed in with something along the lines of : these small things happen in big cities

and i think she also commented that westerner's hygiene standards are higher than ours

did they forget toilet paper :P
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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 10:28:04 AM »

emm all these places should have been prepared for inspection (if not habitation!) weeks, if not months, ago. not 2 days before the games. obviously it will be clean now when a barrel of a gun is up the organizer's arse

it's ok falling roofs and footbridges are not a problem either. we have proved our ability to clean things quickly. the crippled remains of a few laborers should be no problem

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2010, 04:36:36 PM »

emm all these places should have been prepared for inspection (if not habitation!) weeks, if not months, ago. not 2 days before the games. obviously it will be clean now when a barrel of a gun is up the organizer's arse

it's ok falling roofs and footbridges are not a problem either. we have proved our ability to clean things quickly. the crippled remains of a few laborers should be no problem


The footbridge incident is unpardonable, and the Delhi govt. is answerable for that. But there should be fairness is coverage. I think the games village is the least of the problems.

The real problem is the very idea of "commonwealth" games, with the nominal head being the British dynastic monarch. Why are we even a member of this setup? Nobody even raises this issue. People kept quiet when our Head of state went all the way to Buckingham palace to get a stick called Queen's baton. And then the native sportsmen (Ganguly included) were going mad to get that stick and run around with it. What a disgusting sight! Now we will have to see the spectacle of Prince Charles opening the games in Delhi, in his grand Durbar.
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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2010, 06:01:30 AM »

emm all these places should have been prepared for inspection (if not habitation!) weeks, if not months, ago. not 2 days before the games. obviously it will be clean now when a barrel of a gun is up the organizer's arse

it's ok falling roofs and footbridges are not a problem either. we have proved our ability to clean things quickly. the crippled remains of a few laborers should be no problem


The footbridge incident is unpardonable, and the Delhi govt. is answerable for that. But there should be fairness is coverage. I think the games village is the least of the problems.

The real problem is the very idea of "commonwealth" games, with the nominal head being the British dynastic monarch. Why are we even a member of this setup? Nobody even raises this issue. People kept quiet when our Head of state went all the way to Buckingham palace to get a stick called Queen's baton. And then the native sportsmen (Ganguly included) were going mad to get that stick and run around with it. What a disgusting sight! Now we will have to see the spectacle of Prince Charles opening the games in Delhi, in his grand Durbar.

yuck indeed. what a stupid concept. someone ought to tell the queen where to stick her baton...
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2010, 03:19:53 PM »

The collapsed bridge was built by the PWD in 18 Months. The Army has replaced it in just 6 Days.

 http://cwg.ndtv.com/commonwealth/photodetail/page/1/id/8221/CWG-Army-fixes-footbridge-five-days.html

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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2010, 12:06:34 PM »

Yes, the Australians are out to prove a point.

 http://cwg.ndtv.com/commonwealth/article/id/spoen20100153971/type/latest/Australia-TV-crew-brings-detonation-kit-to-venue.html

Don't we have laws against this? I'd love to see the Aussie tv crew spend a night in an Indian jail. They will then never say a word about the unflushed toilets and stray dogs in the athlete's village.


Take a look at this, it exposes the report hollow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55RZ7Y0Wteo

It makes you wonder how believable most of these doomsday reports are. This "journalist" should have been jailed, to set an example.
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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2010, 01:35:59 PM »

The Opening Ceremony looks Wow!...in HD
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Re: Commonwealth Games are doomed,along with India's reputation
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2010, 07:31:25 PM »

Yes, the Australians are out to prove a point.

 http://cwg.ndtv.com/commonwealth/article/id/spoen20100153971/type/latest/Australia-TV-crew-brings-detonation-kit-to-venue.html

Don't we have laws against this? I'd love to see the Aussie tv crew spend a night in an Indian jail. They will then never say a word about the unflushed toilets and stray dogs in the athlete's village.


Take a look at this, it exposes the report hollow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55RZ7Y0Wteo

It makes you wonder how believable most of these doomsday reports are. This "journalist" should have been jailed, to set an example.
This is extremely interesting. Unfortunately, this has not received a percent of the publicity of the original report. I was unaware of it till this point.

One thing that I found a little strange was the price for the "empty suitcase" ... Rs 15000 is quite steep for an empty suitcase, even if it is good and foam-lined.
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