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And Jogi releases the pressure immediately after the strategy break ..what a joker!
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CSK joins the race for last place against KKR and BRC..
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Balaji gets Rohit.

But Dwayne Smith to come ...boy, this is a good batting line up, when in form.
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CSK joins the race for last place against KKR and BRC..

I dont think losing to DC or DD matters much ..everyone's losing to them. They should do well against the other teams. What will hurt if it comes to touch and go is the loss against BRC in the first match and the rained off match against KKR
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wow ..balaji gives 2 runs and takes one wicket in that over

51 off 36 now.

Get Gibbs and we have a game.
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Murali gets Smith!!!
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What an over by Murali ...1 run and a wicket

36 in 24 needed now!!!
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CSK joins the race for last place against KKR and BRC..

CSK has a far better team than either KKR or BRC. Infact they are much better than Punjab and RR. I would not put it beyond them to win 6 out of 9, even if they lose this one. they are probably the only team which can. KKR/RR/PXI are the worst sides on view and BRC are underperforming.
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8 of the last over. more than KKR required in the tied match. a big hit early on is required.
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six. that settles it.
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8 of the last over. more than KKR required in the tied match. a big hit early on is required.
;D ;D
Rightly said . one six game decided.
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It is amazing how DC can pull all these even with their mediocre bowling attack. Part timers RS, Venu etch giving a hand to better bowlers like:  Edwards,RP and Ojha.
Also, now I agree that VVS going early has also contributed to DC win considering the game went to the last over.
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Just keep winning baby.  Wow.  Another clinical display by the DC team.  Led by Gilly and his initial onslaught and the man of the match Gibbs pacing himself and showing how to finish a game did it here.  Great unit that plays to win.  Canniot be happier.  There is DC and there is everyone else now.   They have a very well balanced unit and will be hard to dislodge.
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Just keep winning baby.  Wow.  Another clinical display by the DC team.  Led by Gilly and his initial onslaught and the man of the match pacing himself and showing how to finish a game did it here.  Great unit that plays to win.  Canniot be happier.  There is DC and there is everyone else now.   They have a very well balanced unit and will be hard to dislodge.
After watching the first game, I made a similar statement, This team has the steel to get the CUP.
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1. DC are living up to their top billing last year. they were always a good team, speaks volumes for what a few results can do to a team - either way. Symonds will add to their strength - hopefully.
2. VVS needs to come to the party.
3. CSK have left themselves an uphill task. if anybody can - they can.
4.  DC and DD are through to the semis for all practical purposes.
5. BRC are out of it.
6. KKR v MI next will probably decide the third semifinalist, if MI wins. If KKR wins it becomes interesting.
7. KKR/PXI/RR on paper are not good enough. things may be different with Watson/Hussie coming into play.
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It is amazing how DC can pull all these even with their mediocre bowling attack. Part timers RS, Venu etch giving a hand to better bowlers like:  Edwards,RP and Ojha.

it is called team spirit.

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Also, now I agree that VVS going early has also contributed to DC win considering the game went to the last over.

I am sure that is a tongue in cheek comment so will just say that I hope VVS comes to the party which will make the DC team even better with Symonds set to join in.
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team spirit yes but in batting as also in bowling the start is important. fidel edwards with the ball and gilchrist and gibbs with the bat is key IMO. as also RP singh tho he didnt start well today
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Just keep winning baby.  Wow.  Another clinical display by the DC team.  Led by Gilly and his initial onslaught and the man of the match pacing himself and showing how to finish a game did it here.  Great unit that plays to win.  Canniot be happier.  There is DC and there is everyone else now.   They have a very well balanced unit and will be hard to dislodge.
After watching the first game, I made a similar statement, This team has the steel to get the CUP.

But do they have anyone even half as good as Edwards when he goes? CSK had a similar start last year before Haydos and Hussey went away ..and there on, it was a struggle. DC has done well by winning everything ..so, they can now afford to lose a few.
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Just keep winning baby.  Wow.  Another clinical display by the DC team.  Led by Gilly and his initial onslaught and the man of the match pacing himself and showing how to finish a game did it here.  Great unit that plays to win.  Canniot be happier.  There is DC and there is everyone else now.   They have a very well balanced unit and will be hard to dislodge.
After watching the first game, I made a similar statement, This team has the steel to get the CUP.

But do they have anyone even half as good as Edwards when he goes? CSK had a similar start last year before Haydos and Hussey went away ..and there on, it was a struggle. DC has done well by winning everything ..so, they can now afford to lose a few.
The way I look at it  is as under: Today RPS did not click Smith bowled only 1 over. Ojha only 2. They still managed to hold a team of CSK batting repute to 165. While Edwards seems like a key bowler,  but you never know RPS or Smith can turn the table on their given day. RS coming instead of PO giving the breakthough was the least thing one expected. The difference would definately be there, but spinners seems to be playing an important hidden  role. So honestly only time will tell the impact. Maanki can come in as well

Fidel Edwards  4 0 21 1 0 0 5.2
Rudra Pratap Singh  3 1 32 1 3 2 10.7
Dwayne Smith  1 0 17 0 0 0 17.0
Venugopal Rao  4 0 35 1 0 1 8.8
Rohit Sharma  3 0 18 1 0 0 6.0
Pragyan Ojha  2 0 11 2 0 0 5.5
Shoaib Ahmed  3 0 31 0 0 1 10.3
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Presentation

MS Dhoni: The bowlers are letting us down, we need to come up with a few ideas. And we have struggled in the middle overs. We need to pull up there.

it is because msd who is struggling in the middle overs. they need to send albe up. whats the deal in picking joginder, they should play ashwin instead..
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albie is in horrific form too
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I think MSD at No 4 is a good idea ..if he is able to bat through. He can always up the ante towards the end AND play the anchor role if that is required. He does not seem to be in good form though.

Actually none of the Indian batsmen, who are part of the T20 team, have hit their straps barring Raina perhaps. GG, VS, YS, MSD, YP have all been below par so far.

On the other hand SRT, RD and to an extent SG have had good knocks.
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this is crying out for SRT to be part of the world cup.

it would be unfair ont he game of cricke tif he doesnt
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Does the new Coach Darren Lehman has anything to do with the success of DC?
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Does the new Coach Darren Lehman has anything to do with the success of DC?
Sometimes results speak for themselves.. DL and AG should get due credit here.
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MS Dhoni: The bowlers are letting us down, we need to come up with a few ideas. And we have struggled in the middle overs. We need to pull up there.

it is because msd who is struggling in the middle overs. they need to send albe up. whats the deal in picking joginder, they should play ashwin instead..

MSD does not like the tamizh fellows - Badri bats at #7, Ashwin and Vijay siiting out while PP and Jogi are in the XI ;)
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In the end, it looks like MI versus DC.

Gilchrist & Gibbs versus Tendulkar & Jayasuriya.

Worthy contest.
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final ?

what abt the daredevils ?  ;D
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final ?

what abt the daredevils ?  ;D

If ABD builds a great run which is very much possible, perhaps. I am frustrated with Sehwag wasting his talent again -- if there is one guy who needs to slow down his aggression after Afridi it is him.
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Just keep winning baby.  Wow.  Another clinical display by the DC team.  Led by Gilly and his initial onslaught and the man of the match pacing himself and showing how to finish a game did it here.  Great unit that plays to win.  Canniot be happier.  There is DC and there is everyone else now.   They have a very well balanced unit and will be hard to dislodge.
After watching the first game, I made a similar statement, This team has the steel to get the CUP.

But do they have anyone even half as good as Edwards when he goes? CSK had a similar start last year before Haydos and Hussey went away ..and there on, it was a struggle. DC has done well by winning everything ..so, they can now afford to lose a few.
Actually I was looking at the DC roster.  Once Edwards is gone they do not have the pace to replace him for sure.  It all depends on which Vaas shows up for his 4 over over spell to hold his end up.  May be SA pitches with his vast experience might come to his aid as an advantage.  That is the best DC has for Fidel Edwards when I see their roster and then there are bunch of decent FC players who did well last year like Vijayakumar.  So Edwards departure is a loss.  They however will gain from Symmo coming back for the back end of the games.  Dwayne Smith is staying since he is not part of the WI squad.  So batting is great while bowling will be average to good for the rest of the games after Edwards leaves.  Since they are off to a great start they will get a SF spot even if they win 4-5 of the 10 games left.  Then they have to assess once the SF comes up.  They have a decent chance given the overall team they have IMO.
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btw, where is Sarwan and CPaul  ??? - they have been axed by BRC and KXIP ?
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they are in england.
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Just keep winning baby.  Wow.  Another clinical display by the DC team.  Led by Gilly and his initial onslaught and the man of the match pacing himself and showing how to finish a game did it here.  Great unit that plays to win.  Canniot be happier.  There is DC and there is everyone else now.   They have a very well balanced unit and will be hard to dislodge.
After watching the first game, I made a similar statement, This team has the steel to get the CUP.

But do they have anyone even half as good as Edwards when he goes? CSK had a similar start last year before Haydos and Hussey went away ..and there on, it was a struggle. DC has done well by winning everything ..so, they can now afford to lose a few.
Actually I was looking at the DC roster.  Once Edwards is gone they do not have the pace to replace him for sure.  It all depends on which Vaas shows up for his 4 over over spell to hold his end up.  May be SA pitches with his vast experience might come to his aid as an advantage.  That is the best DC has for Fidel Edwards when I see their roster and then there are bunch of decent FC players who did well last year like Vijayakumar.  So Edwards departure is a loss.  They however will gain from Symmo coming back for the back end of the games.  Dwayne Smith is staying since he is not part of the WI squad.  So batting is great while bowling will be average to good for the rest of the games after Edwards leaves.  Since they are off to a great start they will get a SF spot even if they win 4-5 of the 10 games left.  Then they have to assess once the SF comes up.  They have a decent chance given the overall team they have IMO.
The 4 foreigners now are AG, HG, DS and FE.. when FE leaves, AS comes in.

The bowlers are RPS, PO, Vaas, Zoysa, Kalyankrishna, Sarvesh Kumar, Harmeet Singh, Vijay Kumar, Jaskarandeep Singh.

RPS, PO select themselves. AS will give 4 overs. RS and Venu will give 4 between them.

The choice is to EITHER drop DS and play Vaas or Zoysa  OR play DS and  play one of the remaining 5 (Harmeet, Sarvesh et al).

I would drop DS because AS strengthens the batting a lot.. and try Vaas or Zoysa - whoever clicks. They have a higher probability of excelling in Semis.. having said that if Semi position is locked, they should try one of the 5.
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RPS, PO select themselves. AS will give 4 overs. RS and Venu will give 4 between them.

The choice is to EITHER drop DS and play Vaas or Zoysa  OR play DS and  play one of the remaining 5 (Harmeet, Sarvesh et al).

I would drop DS because AS strengthens the batting a lot.. and try Vaas or Zoysa - whoever clicks. They have a higher probability of excelling in Semis.. having said that if Semi position is locked, they should try one of the 5.

expecting RS, Venu, and Symo to fill in for 4th + 5th bowlers will be sure recipe to lose !! The 3 together can be used for 5th bowler. 2 full-time bowlers need to be played apart from RPS and Ojha.
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The bowling, without Edwards, is very weak. Even last year DC did run up large scores but lost out due to their poor bowling. At least RPS is looking better this year v/s last time around.
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yup. vaas / zoysa need to fire once edwards goes. but this being a more bowler friendly IPL i would suppose that rp will continue to do better. as it is RP always does well in south africa !
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final ?

what abt the daredevils ?  ;D

If ABD builds a great run which is very much possible, perhaps. I am frustrated with Sehwag wasting his talent again -- if there is one guy who needs to slow down his aggression after Afridi it is him.

Bump!
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Seems like what Mascara did was give VS a bowl to hit ,  but add the little extra bounce that can cause mi*.
All bowlers know he(VS) is going to hit everything in T20 game, so may not be very difficult to fox him.
In a test, His shots may have high success rates with similar field placing.
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Match facts

May 4, 2009

Start time 16.45 (14.45GMT)



What script will the second clash between Chennai and Deccan follow?

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Big Picture

Monday's match at Buffalo Park in East London is between teams which had contrasting starts to the second season of the IPL but are now experiencing a change in form.

Last year's finalists Chennai Super Kings had a slow start to the tournament despite their squad brimming with hard-hitting all-round talent. They lost three of their first five games to tough opponents, had one washout against the league's (nearly) also-rans, Kolkata Knight Riders, and lost Andrew Flintoff to injury, leaving them in the bottom half of the points table. However, Chennai regrouped and won their last two matches - against Royal Challengers Bangalore and Delhi Daredevils - and are back in the reckoning for a semi-final berth.

Chennai's most recent defeat in the IPL came against Deccan Chargers, who had transformed themselves from last season's worst team to this season's best by winning their first four matches with relative ease. Deccan were No. 1 in the league when they ran into Delhi and were defeated for the first time. The more serious setback, though, came against a weaker Rajasthan side, who had to strain every sinew to cause an upset. Both those defeats were results of Deccan losing focus during the final stages of the match: Fidel Edwards lost his temper while bowling to Tillakaratne Dilshan during Delhi's chase, and Deccan's fielding went to pieces in the last couple of overs of Rajasthan's pursuit.

Despite the two defeats, however, Deccan are still on top of the league but another loss against a resurgent Chennai will bring them closer to the rest of the pack.

Form guide (completed matches, most recent first)

Chennai Super Kings - WWLLW

Chennai's have banked primarily on Matthew Hayden, the season's highest runscorer with 246, and Suresh Raina, the second highest with 232, for most of their runs. Their powerful allrounders - MS Dhoni, Albie Morkel and Jacob Oram - haven't played a match-winning role as yet. Chennai's bowling isn't the strongest in the tournament but two youngsters - Shadab Jakati and Sudeep Tyagi - played crucial parts in the win against Delhi. Muttiah Muralitharan has been economical, conceding less than six runs an over, but Chennai will want him to add quickly to his haul of five wickets.

Deccan Chargers - LLWWW

Deccan have relied heavily on their openers - Adam Gilchrist and Herschelle Gibbs - for momentum. Rohit Sharma's performances have tapered after an outstanding half-century against Bangalore but Deccan seem to have found a talent in 25-year old T Suman who has 64 runs from two innings at a strike-rate of 145. RP Singh and Pragyan Ojha are their leading wicket-takers with 12 and 10 respectively while Edwards has been restrictive with the new ball. Edwards, though, has left South Africa to join the West Indian squad in England and Deccan will need to pick a replacement.

Watch out for

Gilchrist and Gibbs went berserk against Chennai's new-ball bowlers in Durban last week, scoring 67 runs in 5.4 overs. The assault caused so much damage that Deccan were able to forget the scoring-rate and focus of preserving wickets when batsmen were dismissed in quick succession. Chennai's bowlers will have learnt from the experience but will that be enough to nullify Gilchrist and Gibbs?

Team news

Deccan replaced VVS Laxman with T Suman for the last two games and Laxman is likely to continue to sit out unless the team decides to give him another go instead of Azhar Bilakhia. The big question for Deccan is who to bring in instead of Edwards. Their overseas options are allrounders Scott Styris and Ryan Harris or specialist bowlers Chaminda Vaas and Nuwan Zoysa.

Deccan Chargers (likely): 1 Adam Gilchrist (capt & wk), 2 Herschelle Gibbs, 3 VVS Laxman/ Azhar Bilakhia, 4 Rohit Sharma, 5 T Suman, 6 Dwayne Smith, 7 Scott Styris/Chaminda Vaas, 8 Venugopal Rao, 9 Shoaib Ahmed, 10 Pragyan Ojha, 11 RP Singh.

Chennai made only one change from the team that beat Rajasthan for the match against Delhi, opening with M Vijay instead of Parthiv Patel. Vijay made only 14 but is likely to get another go as Chennai attempt to fill one of the shaky spots in their batting order. Perhaps there's a case for S Badrinath to open because the likes of Dhoni, Morkel and Oram invariably end up facing too few overs. Dhoni said that Chennai were not going to change their overseas combination. "More often you will see these four overseas players in our playing XI - Matthew Hayden, Muttiah Muralitharan, Jacob Oram and Albie Morkel," he said. "They are an integral part of the team. Until and unless someone gets injured or loses form we are not going to change them."

Chennai Super Kings (likely): 1 Matthew Hayden, 2 M Vijay, 3 Suresh Raina, 4 S Badrinath, 5 MS Dhoni, 6 Albie Morkel, 7 Jacob Oram, 8 Shadab Jakati, 9 Sudeep Tyagi, 10 L Balaji, 11 Muttiah Muralitharan.

Stats and trivia

Gilchrist scored 27 runs off 11 balls from L Balaji at a strike-rate of 245 in the first game between these two teams.

Chennai have scored at 9.00 runs an over on average during the Powerplays and have lost eight wickets during that period in six innings. Deccan lost the same amount of wickets but scored at 8.30 runs per over.

Chennai's bowlers, however, have the worst economy-rate during the Powerplay, conceding 8.36 runs per over with an average of 30 per wicket. Deccan have an economy-rate of 6.52 and average only 20 per wicket.

Head-to-head record

Deccan won the first match against Chennai this season by six wickets and three balls to spare. Hayden top-scored for Chennai with 49 but they lost momentum after the tactical time-out and ended on 165 for 6. Deccan's openers gave them a fast start, one which proved decisive in winning the game.

Their head-to-head record last season was even at a win apiece for the teams. A Gilchrist half-century led Deccan to victory at the  MA Chidambaram Stadium while Raina's 54 steered Chennai home in Hyderabad.

Quotes

"I think my batting is pathetic in the tournament so far. All the big-hitters including Albie Morkel, Jacob Oram and I didn't really click. We need to perform in the future as we are a side that relies heavily on its batting. If one of us clicks in future and with our top-order performing well we can give good targets to our bowlers to defend. And that is our strategy."

Dhoni is candid about his performance in the IPL.

George Binoy is a senior sub-editor at Cricinfo



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